翻译已经编辑到主贴里了。
大家有没有注意到KAMIL的说法让李峰的SUP7也中枪了？
Micheal Gottlieb的想法和我比较相似。
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- -林大圣的翻译能力好强....超级佩服的...
我也觉得应该去提一下中国玩家的意见.他们这么想改就改,纯粹自high嘛- -.
RP好就要被嫉妒么.- -他们自己RP不到位还这么多说法...
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目前的焦点就是RPD的那个0.95s录像。
我个人意见：判断是否幸运要看on-purpose-solved 3bv是否达到50%。如果有意识开空占至少一半的3bv，就应该判定录像合法，否则该录像属于lucky-solved。
这条规则可以保证RPD的录像恰好合法。Kamil所说的on-purpose-click比较牵强，扫雷是比solve不是比click。
稍微改进一点的话，在计算3bv时把第一下点开的3bv去掉，这样RPD的录像o-p-s 3bv就占了大于50%：lucky-solved=4，on-purpose-solved=5。具体怎么表述这条规则我就不说了。这样也更有道理一些，因为第一下点击是不可避免的。
另外我支持加权排行为主同时保留total 3bvs。
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算了把我的话也贴这儿吧~一塌糊涂的介词使用。。。
i do not want to criticize anyone,i just feel disappointed about the bias on beginner-players.the ranking rule dose not matter to me,but i do not agree with the view some people hold towards MO.
i still can not believe that world's best sweeper like EWQ try to make everyone focus on expert or intermediate as IT SHOULD BE.the word sounds ridiculous to me.is it WRONG to play beginner level?it is MINESWEEPER,TOO.weight ranking is not bad,but the attempt to change beginner-players into the shape you want may not work because players care more about fun than record,don't you think so? the force you put on them can only make them sad because they are looked down upon.
and the sterotype towards beginner-players is also ridiculous.DON'T jugde a beginner-player by its expert records.otherwise you have to draw a conclusion that one of my friend must be a cheater.(he got beg time 1s*17 and 3bvs 8.01 while his exp time 81s and 3bvs 2.11){嘻嘻。。}
he can easily beat most players in China on beginner while it reversed on expert(judging by AVG time and AVG 3bvs).he devote himself into beginner level,and i think MO did the same,too.MO payed his efforts just as you do on exp level,and he deserve his luck(just as your luck when you get the board on which you broke record).
and i want to figure it out that actually MO's quick-reaction and quick-click account for the record.he got 3bvs10*3 and countless 1s(once he won 1s*2 just in an hour/minute, sorry for lack of detail),which witnessed his strength rather than luck. in other word,i believe 10.53 is his speed.the board is lucky but just as lucky as your record board.seriously,perhaps MO can beat most of you on beginner.
PS:it's clear that what some people are talking about is just to find out a way to sweep MO's 0.95s away legally.so seriously,why not just sweep videos made by clone0.97? that is the simplest way to get rid of the trouble,and then nothing will bother you. XD
加权3bvs我不反对（MO大照样是初级世界记录），林GG的提议也不错的说（然后我的记录中了一箭。。3bv的1/3行么T.T虽然说不是重点）
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NPC V587!!!
很仔细地看完了,很惊喜的是居然能看懂绝大部分= =看来我的英语也没烂到不能接受...
拿小洪来给他们举例真是再好不过了...专注于初级有什么不对,不就像他们专注于高级一样么...不能接受RPD创造的世界纪录,大概只是因为他们不服气自己输给一个"只能勉强sub60"的中国人.
不知道为什么想要初级成绩被承认就一定要高级纪录好..如果是这样的话,还要单项纪录干什么.有资格创造世界纪录的人照他们这种说法,那一定都是很强的,还要单项干吗?还有用吗?直接看总成绩不是更好.
既然有单项纪录的存在,就会有专注于某一级别的选手存在.初级非常厉害和高级水平一般并不存在什么矛盾冲突.难道只是因为RPD的高级水平不如他们认为的那么好,就否认RPD通过这么久的努力得到的初级成绩么?
不想再对他们的话做任何评论.总之两个字:鄙视.
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我看了一下NPC兄写的。第一句改成Not criticizing anyone或许会好一点。某些地方漏了些字母，不过不是很重要的问题。
PS那段语气最好委婉一些……比如说，u may like this idea, just to remove all clone 0.97 videos, so there're no problem anymore.
总体来说不错。周丹说的很有道理，NPC兄可以翻译一下放在另外一个post里面。
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林GGV5。。。
不过我已经对他们回帖的回帖都已经贴上去了T.T
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哦。。。我忘记去看了，呵呵。NPC辛苦了。
大门和Fritz的意见是认为，现有的lucky rule works well enough，避免了100% lucky的录像，从而引导雷友们去追求skill而不是lucky board。
另外大门还有这样的意思，只用两下点击就扫出来的录像还是运气成分偏高，虽然网站会承认它的有效性，但是作为世界纪录还是有点说不过去。kamil的9.62是full of skill with a little luck that every world record need，这作为世界纪录是毫无疑问的。莫GG也已经说不太在意这个了。
讨论世界纪录什么的确实偏离了大门开帖的主旨。另外kamil说如果莫GG真的要声称自己拥有初级3bvs的纪录，就要用一种不那么含运气的方式击败他……我个人认为8.41和那么多7+已经说明莫GG的实力了。
Fritz说他只是想要一个weighed ranking，我很同意他的意见。个人建议，目前讨论的重点是且只是lucky rule的具体内容，与其他东西无关。
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